. >> stephanie: senator marco rubio. >> i think the president is not a believer in the second amendment. if he doesn't want the second amendment to be in the constitution, or wants to reform it, then have guts to admit that. >> stephanie: how many times can the president say he believes in the second amendment. the fact that he did nothing but expand the second amendment in his first term -- >> because they live in an alternate universe who say everything he does is the opposite of what he is going to do. >> stephanie: yep. and david king nra president yesterday. >> we're powerful to the extent that we are, use there are millions and millions of americans who truly care about second amendment issues. >> but nobody is threatening to take away your gun. >> stephanie: i know. >> unless you are a crazy person, then, yes. but those are the people we are targeting, and it's with evidence. >> stephanie: who watched lance and oprah last night. >> i watched the first 20 minutes of it. >> stephanie: all right. we have crunchy audio goodness and we'll get jacki's take as we continue -- >> we're ke